Hi, I know this is a really old post, but since I’ve only recently come across threads about porting The Witness to Linux.

In the future, if you are considering porting to Linux, I don’t suggest making a big deal about offering support. Just make it clear under what conditions your development team get the games working for yourselves. Us Linux gamers will take care of the rest.

I’ve had to research and troubleshoot several games ported to Linux that were left unsupported by the developers. I can wholeheartedly tell you that “something is better than nothing.” Linux users are resilient – we’ll be grateful for the port and share workarounds with one another on how to get your games working under various conditions ourselves.

BTW, I really like Braid; thanks for the great game! I’ve told many people about it and how it’s the only game I played where it seemed like I was subconsciously solving puzzles.

I can’t seem to find any updates on wheter or not any physical copy will happen, are you guys still thinking about it, or will nothing happing? I’m really interested, cause I can wait if it will, but otherwhise I’m waiting for nothing and I want to play the game so badly. :D

We released Braid on Linux and not many people bought it there, and the support burden was very high. The Witness is a much more expensive game to port, and because it uses more serious graphics functionality, the support burden will be even higher. There is no way enough people are going to buy the game on Linux to support the port financially, unless something drastically changes in the Linux ecosystem. So if we do it, it will just be because we want to do it. But right now it’s not a priority.

You know John, you game looks good, actually pretty good. Im interested in the game, your post draw my attention so I want to share my humble opinion.
Commercial Standpoint? Maybe companies like Capcom/Techland/2k and other AAA and indie developers knows something you dont or viceversa because they still are announcing support for SteamOS/Linux for some of their games, perhaps they are crazy or you have the wrong data.
Highly Complicated 3D graphics API: I tought UE4/Cryengine/Unity 5 did that work? In the case you use your own engine, well. But we already live in a age when we can just export the game for every platform outhere. Of course most AAA developers still are using their own graphic engines which sometimes works, sometimes dont.
In the Steam Hub some people said you are some kind of “linux hater”, because supossedly you said that Linux desktop experience is bad for an average user or something like that, but this not about if we like something or not, isnt it? I dont like Apple products but I cant denied the fact that If I was a game developer I will be releasing the game for MAC, because there are potential customers there as they are on Linux. In the case I dont know how to do it, I could hire someone who knows if the Windows version does right(in terms of money) and I think the Witness is doing all right on Steam right know.
Well just want to share my two cents, and good luck with the game or any future project.

My thoughts exactly. I was never expecting them to add it but was really hoping. This game is the perfect example of a VR game from what we’ve seen. Hope we’ll get to experience it eventually.

Really love that article too, super insightful & interesting :)

Here is my favorite article : https://the-witness.net/news/2012/12/what-i-did-on-my-christmas-vacation/

I’m gonna make a run of braid to wait until the witness came out :-)

( sorry for my bad english, it’s not my native language).

Not much longer to wait now! :D

On the topic of VR. Over the last couple of years it’s become harder and harder to follow the development of this game and not ACHE to wonder around this island ‘in person’. But realistically, I think we will have to be patient and hope that as VR platforms mature add-ons/tools will be made available.

I imagine the UI would need a VR-specific overhaul, which would not be trivial to create were it to feel organic and seamless and properly integrated into the experience not as a gimmicky afterthought. There are lots of unexpected useability issues with VR that tend to arise. For example, the way the camera currently locks onto the puzzles would be potentially be jarring. Not to mention the gut-churning inherent to ordinary locomotion, which a teleportation mechanism might solve, at the cost of perhaps straying from the original feel of the game. In the meantime I wait and hope.

But for now, the original vision is more than enough.

I don’t even know what to think or feel. Trying to be as zen-like as possible.

This is going to be monumental.

: )

Thanks Dangerzone. I did not know that.
That means it will release at 00:00 on January 27th for me then (Belgium).
Guess it will be a long night :D But so worth it.

Why? Because Sony are not very punctual when it comes to updating their store… Been that way for ages, actually it’s the only thing I currently hate about PSN at the moment

I’ve got my 10 year badge on Steam and have somewhere around 400 games in my account. I can’t actually think of a time in the last decade when I couldn’t play or download a game because Steam was down. As far as I know, while Steam (like every large online service) has had minor hack incidents here and there, there’s never been a major data theft on that service. Unlike, say Sony’s PSN service which had 77 million accounts compromised and was down for 23 days as a result in 2011. Steam has been remarkably stable and safe for all of its existence.

What about a Mac port?

is there a chance that we will see The Witness on GOG as an alternative to Steam?

No, developers make no money from sites like that.

As far as I know, those kinds of sites get their keys by paying basically nothing for bundles/promotional deals and the like, then selling the keys at much higher prices later when the games are not on sale. (I am not sure where the keys for newer games like Fallout 4 come from, maybe the codes are pack-ins with new video cards or something, and people sell those?)

Developers really do not like it. On my part, it means I don’t put Braid in many bundles any more, because I know a lot of the bundle purchases are sites like this just trying to act as a middleman.

All that said .. I don’t know if I would discourage you from using a site like this or say that it’s wrong. If codes end up there, they probably aren’t stolen, they probably came from some time when a developer or publisher was selling these things at a very steep discount… they didn’t expect someone to turn around and resell it, but I am not sure that such reselling is unfair or unexpected. So maybe this just affects the market dynamics, so that a developer selling their game for 50 cents in a Humble Bundle stops being a thing that people do. In one sense that is kind of a loss for gamers, but on the other hand, maybe it’s fine, maybe that is preferable to a world where we have some kind of draconian laws preventing you from reselling things you bought.

Being “outraged” and “boycotting” is especially in style right now. It’s also popular to come to the defense of hypothetical people right now. “I personally don’t care, but they shouldn’t do that for the sake of people that do,” is a very common comment.

It’ll be a distant memory by the end of this month. I’m betting sales figures won’t show any hint of this supposed loss of faith.

Makes sense, however, I think you accidentally created potentially the best VR experience to date without exclusively designing for it. My idea of good VR is to go somewhere I can’t actually go and explore leisurely. Sounds like the Witness! I think it would be well received but it makes sense that you aren’t focused on that since none of the peripherals are even out yet. Fingers crossed that my second play through might be virtual!

I will buy the witness on January 26. I’m not rich so I buy my games on platforms like Instant Gaming, where they are usually cheaper.
I would like to know if you are normally paid when selling on such platforms, cause there is no point in buying this game here if you don’t recieve any of that support…

Thank you. And good luck with the launch.

Steam had one problem for a few hours on one day and everyone wants to freak out. Sigh.

It’s been in extremely closed early access for a few years to test steam integration: https://the-witness.net/news/2012/11/very-limited-very-closed-beta/
The rest of us will just have to wait for January.

It’s just a dumb mistake, it is hard to know what various things on the Steam configuration page mean.

Early Access?

@DAS k1ishEé
I’m neither worried nor sad. I’ll get the game digitally on both PS4 and Steam and later on I’ll get the physical copy too. And when then iOS version releases I’ll get that one as well.

Also, I’m poor but I’ve been saving for this for six years. I’m ready even if the game is $60. I’ve been waiting too long!

W-w-wait a sec! Steam page says there’ll be no english subtitles. Probably it’s just some mistake, but if it’s not, then why? I usually turn them on just in case I don’t recognize some word by ear (I’m not a native speaker). And subtitles in a different language are not so useful for this purpose.

@forty

PC: Steam (and perhaps others) http://store.steampowered.com/app/210970/
PS4: PSN

I don’t know if we will ever do an Xbox One version. It’s a possibility, but we will have to start looking at the possibility after release (it depends on a lot of things).

Just one question. I have looked all over the internet and I would like to know if The Witness for PC will be a stand alone or will I need to use Steam? I have use Steam before and gameplay does slow down when my internet slows.

This year I was lucky enough to attend the presentation Orsi gave at Siggraph on developing the world within The Witness (computer connection hiccups aside) and have to say that made the wait even more unbearable, for all the right reasons.

As someone that loves landscape, architecture and games that allow for moments of reflection I think my waiting will be rewarded many many times over. I’m looking forward to finally getting to experience this, and offer my thanks in advance to you and your team for your time and effort in making games of this style and quality.

Not at release. There is a chance we might do something later but I am not sure how high a chance that will be.

The best VR games are going to be games that are exclusively designed for VR, which this one is not since I started designing it in 2008!

We will probably do support in The Witness for a few VR platforms at some point, but I think if you are going to buy one you should be interested in games that were designed for that platform from the ground up.

Indeed, I am just focusing on getting the game done!

~Paulogy

P.S. Love that new long screenshot. All too often you are asked to blast by all sorts of details in a game, on the way to the next objective. Or when you do stop and take a moment, you notice how one-dimensional the world seems. So it’s quite refreshing to see a game world made for lingering, close examination, and reflection.

I sure hope the first one (or the retail version containing only a key for downloading on Steam) is not the case! DRM is meaningless; it just adds to the trouble of genuine buyers.

Since Jon didn’t go for crowdfunding, things like preorders are not likely as well. (I guess “no pressure” is Jon’s primary motivation? ;P)

ditto!

It’s Jack Black isn’t it?

Yeah I was pretty sure that would be your reasoning. Although I, like many, would’ve thrown money at you a few years ago, and am part of the crowd who expects delays over broken games. You could always juice it up with incentives though, free theme, ambient environmental noise OST, $3 off, I’d like the warm fuzzy feeling of knowing that you shut up and took my money.

Also, I noticed that this long screenshot starts at the same place that is shown in this screensaver: https://the-witness.net/news/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/desktop_Final.png
(not really important but wanted to point it out anyway :-) )

One reason I may not want to take preorders is that if we do for some reason delay the game a couple of weeks, I don’t want people to feel miffed because they already gave us their money. Or something like that.

(I am not saying a delay is likely; just that if it came down to it and we had to fix something that took a little extra time, I would rather take the time to fix it than release a broken game.)

The transitions between the different “biome” is really well done . One minute you’re in the middle of a desert, the next you’re in a green forrest.

There won’t be Linux support on release day, no.
As for whether we do it later, it remains to be seen! From a commercial standpoint it is not really justified; from a technical standpoint, I don’t even know how well we’d ultimately be able to get the game to work given the current state of graphics on Linux, but it might be something we’d try at some point.

If we could get to a future where we didn’t require highly complicated 3D graphics APIs in order to render, porting would be a lot easier; the portions of the game that are in C++ and are independent of rendering are comparatively easy to port. But that seems not to be the world we live in right now.

Anyways I wish for more news about release platforms and distibutors. The visuals are great, especially the bloom effect and clouds. It has a very MYST-like setting in many ways.

All of the games I am getting for Christmas will be dropped the second this appears on the store.

Good luck with the final push.

The water is just beautiful, especially the refractions.

Assuming that these videos and past aerial screenshots are created using a dev tool to float about the island wherever desired, will there be a mode accessible to players to ‘leave gravity behind’ and accomplish the same feats?